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OIART INTERVIEWS JEFF MUIR,
OIART Grad 2003, Assistant Engineer on Rush's new recording 'Feedback'
- recorded at 'Phase One Studios', due to be released June 29th,
2004.
Bob Breen: How's it going there at Phase One? Are you
in audio heaven?
Jeff Muir: Things are going great. We're in the middle of a pretty
busy season right now that doesn't show signs of stopping. We
have a lot to look forward to this summer.
It's pretty impressive to me how fast you graduated from runner
to assistant engineer. Are you assisting alone or still shadowing,
like a "second assistant."
I'm assisting alone all the time now. It was a shock to me how
fast the whole assisting thing came about. One day I was observing
sessions and getting coffee and the next I was knee deep with
Rush.
Wow, no joke. That's a big accomplishment. How'd you
like working with Rush?
It was great. They were extremely friendly and had a great work
ethic. I can't wait for the next opportunity.

How'd they like working with you?
We all got along really well, and there were virtually no mishaps.
I mean in a session that ran that smoothly, it’s hard to
have any complaints.
Okay, more on that later... let's go back to the start.
What brought you to OIART in the first place?
Back in high school I was asked to play trumpet on a song that
some students at Fanshawe MIA were working on. It opened the door
to a career that took my love of music and my technical attributes
and combined them. When it was time to choose a school I investigated
quite a few. I was sold on OIART when I came in for the tour.
Everyone was so nice and professional. Plus the facilities are
amazing.
How did you find the school? I don't mean "take
the Wellington Exit off the 401" but rather how did you become
aware of the school?
One of the gentlemen at my church told me about it. His son took
the course a year previous to my enrollment. It was pretty funny,
growing up in London and never even hearing about it, I'm glad
I did.
Did you enjoy it here? I reckon you'll say "yes"
'cause everyone does.
For sure, my only beef is that it wasn't longer.
Did you know what you wanted to do career-wise right
from the start? Did it change as the year went on?
I had an idea that working in a music studio is what I would end
up doing. I always wanted to involve music in my career, and OIART
supported this path as the year went on.
How did you go about searching for work, or starting
your career I suppose, after graduation?
I guess the biggest thing is knowing what you want. After that
it’s pretty simple. You have to do all you can to get it.
In this industry persistence pays off huge. You have to be prepared
to work for free, and live out of your car if that’s what
it takes (or have supporting parents...thanks Mom and Dad...haha!).
Most places are more than willing to give you a chance if it doesn't
cost them anything. Having the right attitude is key!
How long did it take you to actually find work? It's
pretty normal for there to be some anxious moments.
Once I finished, I took some time off and just scouted a few places.
Unfortunately London doesn't have a booming studio scene, so I
looked to Toronto. I came across Phase One and decided that it
was my number one choice. I called them up and said something
to the effect of “I'm interested in your studio and would
like to come in for a tour". I sort of made my own interview.
When I came in I let the manager here know that I was willing
to do anything. He saw that my attitude was right, and we talked
for some time. After that, I called twice to let them know that
I was still very interested. Then I got the call to come in, and
I’ve been here since.
What was the process like for you - making the "cold
call" to a big studio where nobody knew you?
Well the way I figured it, they didn't know me and I didn't know
them so what was the worst thing that could happen...I guess they
could hang up on me.
So you were on an unpaid internship at first. How long
did it take you to join the staff?
Well I was fortunate. Shortly after arriving, one of the assistant
engineers took a job with a big Canadian producer. With my education
I was the logical one to move into that opening. I didn't start
getting paid until a few months later, but I knew that if I worked
hard I would have the job. So in a roundabout way to answer your
question, it took about 4-5 months.
You had to be prepared when the opportunity came. What
do you think you did that set you apart from the other intern(s)
that made you Phase One's choice to hire?
There is a "family" atmosphere at the studio. Everyone
that works here is close and very friendly. They must have thought
that I fit in. It wasn't so much what I knew (although it helped),
it was more my attitude when I was doing the grunt jobs.
I’m glad you mentioned that. It must be difficult
for someone coming into the music business (with a ton of technical
knowledge from a recording school) to understand how fetching
sandwiches and emptying trash properly can actually help your
engineering career. Clearly it helped take you somewhere you really
wanted to be – and quickly. In my opinion, a school can’t
really “teach” attitude, personality and work ethic.
Those characteristics are unique to each individual. Do you feel
OIART maybe helped shape those attributes you likely already had?
If so, in what way?
I would say that all of the staff members at OIART are a great
example of the right attitude. They may not have taught it in
a class, but they certainly put it on display everyday.
What, from the OIART curriculum, may have helped push
you "over the top" as they say?
I would say it was Mark in RTEC. He always allowed us to pursue
different possibilities and solutions. It challenged me to think
for myself, instead of being spoon fed the answers.
So tell us about the jobs you've done at Phase One so
far?
Well there’s a lot to tell, but I'll do my best to keep
it short. I started here in September 2003 as an intern. There
isn’t much that you are told to do, so I made jobs for myself.
If I walked by something and thought it needed cleaning, I did
it. Even though it may have seemed like pointless busy work, it
needed to be done. I have a couple horror stories that may make
anyone thinking of a career in a recording studio run for the
hills.
I was lucky to get a big break soon after starting as an intern.
We held a "writers camp" for the Canadian idol winner
Ryan Malcolm. I got to engineer demos for Randy Bachman, McMaster
and James, Julie Black...just to name a few. Not to mention that
some of the tracks that I recorded made it on the album. Not a
bad second week. I still did intern stuff after that, but I really
proved my worth to the studio that week.
Since then I've been assisting a lot and have gotten to work
with a lot of different people. David Schiffman (producer/engineer),
Kardinal Official, Disney, Graph Nobel, Rush...etc. Needless to
say it’s been a blast. At one point we even shot a Bud Light
beer commercial, and I was in charge of the soundtrack playback...crazy!!
How did you make the move from runner to assistant engineer?
As an intern I was responsible for the cleaning, answering phones,
and getting in to the studios any chance there was. From there
I moved on to a second assistant, which entailed setting up, tearing
down, and learning all I could in between. After proving myself
in those situations, they felt comfortable putting me in on sessions
by myself. If you take care in all the little things along the
way, it shows that you can take care of the big things.
Tell us about the Rush project... I'm curious (as of
this writing the record has not yet been released). Who were the
Producer and Engineer?
The album release date is June 29th 2004, and it’s called
“Feedback”. Since it's Rush's 30th anniversary this
year, they decided to make an album of cover tunes that inspired
them to do what they do. David Leonard was the Engineer &
Producer. He's worked with Prince, John Mellencamp, Collective
Soul and many more. He was a really great guy to work with.
How did they go about tracking the record? Can you give
us a glimpse into how they work?
Well apparently they usually play all their parts separate, but
since they were going for the "60's vibe" they played
as a trio. It was surreal to see a legendary rock band play right
in front of you while you’re changing a mic or something.
No kidding! I was lucky enough to see some of that too,
in my studio days, and the feeling is hard to match. It’s
like Christmas and your birthday all at once. So what format did
they record to?
Funny thing, Geddy and Alex use Logic, but David uses Pro Tools,
so we kind of bounced back and forth between the two. Most of
the recording was done to Pro Tools HD. It was kind of disappointing
that they didn't use analogue, but they mixed to 1/2" which
warmed things up nicely.
Did you have a role in managing the media? (ie/ Tape
op, Labeling tape boxes, Pro Tools operator or doing nightly backups)
If not, who did and what did they have to do?
Well I did pretty much everything mentioned. It was my job to
take care of all of the backups, tape and labeling so that the
engineer didn’t have to worry about it.
Did they take something home to listen to at the end
of each day?What was your role there?
We'd print reference CDs every night. I had to align the converters,
set up the Alesis Masterlink and make the CDs.
What are some other things you had to do for the session?
Were you asked for your input on anything, technical or otherwise?
For a session like this there is a bit of everything. That’s
the nice thing about this job, it’s never really the same.
There’s always something new, and thinking on the fly is
a great skill to have.
What were the hours like?
Very respectable. We'd work from noon to 10pm almost everyday.
An experienced band like that knows that working around the clock
is counter productive.
What, of your OIART knowledge, did you have to draw on
to get through the session successfully?
There was a lot that I hadn’t encountered yet here myself,
but luckily I was prepared for it all coming from OIART. I think
the biggest thing was confidence. I knew that there wasn’t
any situation that could come up that I wouldn’t be able
to handle.
Seems to me Rush are very close old friends, I was once
at YYZ ironically enough (Toronto International Airport, but also
the title of a Rush instrumental with a drum part that baffled
every wannabe virtuoso drummer I ever knew in high school), and
Alex Lifeson and Geddy Lee were in line together ahead of me with
racquets slung over their shoulders. Wherever they were going,
it looked like they planned on hanging out together. How was the
group dynamic?
You can tell why they’ve been together for 30 years. There
wasn’t one fight in the time that they were here. Any time
they disagreed they instinctually just presented their cases and
made a decision. Also they were all really friendly, and easy
to get along with.
So how'd they mic up Neil Peart's drum set? Was it a
largely traditional kit or were lots of triggers happening too?
They just tracked the album at Phase One, right?
They originally were planning to just track here, but they decided
that they liked the sound of the rough mixes so much, that they
would mix here as well.
So in answer to your first question, there were mics everywhere.
Neil’s kit (as most know) is a sight to be seen. He has
about 10 toms, 2 hi hats, a million cymbals and a hardware case
that takes about five guys to lift. We used the traditional 57
on the snare, a 421, FET 47 and a mic that was inside already
on the kick. There were mostly condensers on the toms –
87’s, 414’s that sort of thing. For overheads we also
had some 87’s. The coolest thing about the setup though
was the room mics. Since it was a 60’s cover record, they
wanted it to have an “older” sound. To achieve this
with Pro Tools, you have to really warm up the front end by using
certain mics, pres and outboard gear. We had a stereo Royer ribbon
mic about five feet back (depending on the song) and pointed at
the middle of the kit. We also used an old RCA ribbon over the
kit. Off to the side of the kick drum pointed at the snare (but
on the opposite side) we had an Earthworks (not sure of the model).
Although there were so many drum tracks, David (The Engineer)
wouldn’t always use them all. The kit sounded clear as day
with only the stereo Royer, RCA and Earthworks up. And the stereo
image was great. It doesn’t hurt to have a custom kit with
one of the best drummers in the world playing it either - and
probably the loudest player. Try changing a kick drum mic next
to that.
As for the mixing, that was very dry. I shouldn’t get into
too much detail because you probably know how producers guard
their tricks. I will say however that there was a lot of compression
and listening between different combinations of mics and mic phase.
The trick in any good recording is to make it right on the way
in
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What studio gear was mainly used in the session?
All the bed tracks were done in our “A” room, which
has a vintage Neve console with 1081’s and 1073’s.
Most of the overdubs and vocals were recorded in “B”
which has an API. They also mixed in “B”. Not too
many people know how good an API is, but it’s got a similar
quality to the Neve in sound, and it’s very friendly to
work on.
As for outboard on the way in, there simply wasn’t any.
It was all about mic placement. Just listening to the raw tracks
was incredible. There was also a huge emphasis put on performance.
They took the time to play things right and get “the feel”
perfect. A lot of the overdubs were spur of the moment and turned
out amazing. You’ll have to hear for yourselves.
You know they were on the Bob and Doug MacKenzie album
too, eh? As if they weren't cool enough already.
Alex was also on The Trailer Park Boys a while back. I guess Bubbles
wanted to see Rush but couldn’t get tickets, so Rickey kidnapped
him. It was great, Alex brought it in and we all watched it. That
was the first time that it really sunk in how huge this was. I
was sitting there with Alex Lifeson watching him in front of thousands
of people on stage. Crazy experience!!
Did you get to hear any good stories that you can share?
I did, but most were about other artist's that David has worked
with, oddly enough. But you know I don’t want to get anyone
in trouble so I should really stay quiet.
What does the future hold for Jeff Muir? What's coming
up soon and what are your ultimate goals?
Right now I’m happy with what I’m doing and it’s
probably too early to tell what’s next. For now all I can
do is keep working hard, and see what opportunities present themselves.
Do you have any advice for someone wanting to follow
a similar career path?
When you have any time off, use it to sleep. Just kidding (well
not really). I guess all I can say is do what you want to do and
make it work. If you’re giving your all you’ll be
rewarded for that, even though it might look like no one notices.
You're still learning something new every day, aren't
you?
Always. That’s the type of work this is. No matter if you’re
an intern or a world class engineer working with Rush, you’re
always learning. That’s one of the appeals of this job,
you know.
Thanks for your time, Jeff! Best of luck in the future!
No problem, and I hope to talk to you all there again soon.
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